Anders Andersen, I am glad the book is on your radar. However whilst I am grateful for the author teaching me about, System 2 brain, the irony is System 2 brain (which is thinking that requires thought and reason ) taught me that like all self help-books the book itself contains a few paragraphs of beneficial self help, but the additional 400 pages were simply the author and publishing company filling pages to financially benifit themselves by selling a book. Ok If I am too be fair to the book, maybe I am now cynicle of all publishing companies, possibly because of my experience with the "Watchtower publishing company" and all those Watchtowers, Awakes, and stupid noncence books I read like " Revolution it's Grand Climax at Hand" etc, etc, etc, etc,
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Why I believe the quality of my posts has improved.
by The Rebel in" thinking fast and slow" is a self help book by d kahneman.. according to my simplified understanding of the above self-help book we have 2 brains, which the author calls system 1 brain and system 2 brain.. system 1 brain is the brain that make the decisions, that we do as routine.. system 2 brain is the brain that uses conscious reasoning.
thinking that requires conscious effort.. now the interesting thing is system1 brain is often making decisions system 2 brain isn't even aware are being made.
this is because system 2 brain requires conscious reasoning, and thinking that requires effort.
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Why I believe the quality of my posts has improved.
by The Rebel in" thinking fast and slow" is a self help book by d kahneman.. according to my simplified understanding of the above self-help book we have 2 brains, which the author calls system 1 brain and system 2 brain.. system 1 brain is the brain that make the decisions, that we do as routine.. system 2 brain is the brain that uses conscious reasoning.
thinking that requires conscious effort.. now the interesting thing is system1 brain is often making decisions system 2 brain isn't even aware are being made.
this is because system 2 brain requires conscious reasoning, and thinking that requires effort.
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" Thinking fast and slow" is a self help book by D Kahneman.
According to my simplified understanding of the above self-help book we have 2 brains, which the author calls System 1 brain and system 2 brain.
System 1 brain is the brain that make the decisions, that we do as routine.
System 2 brain is the brain that uses conscious reasoning. I.e. thinking that requires conscious effort.
Now the interesting thing is System1 brain is often making decisions System 2 brain isn't even aware are being made. This is because System 2 brain requires conscious reasoning, and thinking that requires effort. However the interesting point is that the distinction between System 1 and System 2 brains have practical implications.
Having been made aware of this, I believe the quality of my posting has improved because I now usually try to post in System 2 brain mode, which requires conscious reasoning and appreciating the other posters comments, before replying.
To clarify I think most of us enjoy and spend most of our life in System 1 brain, which is for example when we walk through the park and simply enjoy the walk. However if it was late at night and a noisy crowd were in front of us we would then allow System 2 brain to function and consider the risk factors of walking past the noisy crowd.
The interesting point is that I had always thought I had only 1 fully functioning brain (a thought I appreciate many have disputed ) I think however being aware of System 2 brain and employing it more often has greatly improved my life. This O.P was written in system 2 brain that's a nice way to start the day.
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Morality Without Deity
by cofty inone of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.
it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.
christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.
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Sadly I can now only contribute to this thread by acknowledging how thought provoking I have found many of the comments. I am sure I am not alone in this, so my point is keep the thread positive, opposing views non-argumentative, as I continue to lurk and learn.
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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?
by Simon init seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
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When you get 3 million people, marching and feeling the same way, it can often be the result of a group mentality, which has taken over rational thinking. I am not in to this type of hysteria, or at least I think it's better suited to football matches.
I am not saying that marching doesn't have a good cause, but I often feel large demonstrations have only achieved giving a bad demonstration to that cause.
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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?
by Simon init seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
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My answer to the O.P " What is the woman's march for " is that it is for " Ego". It would only be right and proper that I am red flagged for my opinion with those who don't agree. But my answer to the O.P is " Ego"
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Absolute moral standards and fiction.
by The Rebel innot all beliefs are worthy of respect, but when we read a book of fiction in my mind it's easier to travel outside ourselves and our absolute moral standards.
fiction allows our imagination to be free.
i haven't read " fifty shades of grey" but i read " romeo and juliet" at school,and juliet was 13, romeo i believe was supposedly around 18 or 19.
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Vanderhoven7 " well I suppose a case can be made that all is fair in war....."
I think the only case that can be made is that man isn't good, and that those that have the power have the right, which is why the wheels of " war, torture, making deals with the enemy...." will roll on.
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Morality Without Deity
by cofty inone of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.
it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.
christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.
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As a landlord it is my job to have the gas and electrics up to standard. However if I employ a qualified electrician and he does the electrics, yet a serious electrical problem still occurs, i would still feel responsible and devastated, if something tragic happenned to my tenants.Why? Because I am the Landlord and the safety of the tenants is my responsibility. If the electrician f...ks up, it doesn't excuse my responsibility.
This is the problem I have with God, he has a lower moral standard than I, he simply hasn't done enough, and the sentimental story of sending his son to die for our sins, is a bit like me passing the responsibility on to my electrician. If God created man he should have known of the risk factor and that things could go wrong. In my opinion the fact that we have tsunamis, and so much senseless tragity in the world is proof that if God exists and created mankind, he has no moral standard and is not worthy of my respect. However if a person feels they can make sense of this God and find him all loving, then i hope they will also understand why I can't?
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Absolute moral standards and fiction.
by The Rebel innot all beliefs are worthy of respect, but when we read a book of fiction in my mind it's easier to travel outside ourselves and our absolute moral standards.
fiction allows our imagination to be free.
i haven't read " fifty shades of grey" but i read " romeo and juliet" at school,and juliet was 13, romeo i believe was supposedly around 18 or 19.
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Vanderthtown, "According to objective morality, was it moral to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki?"
It's certainly worth discussing if the bombing was an act of terroisam, as opposed to an act of war?
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I spoke to 2 Jobos on a cart but I refused to discuss religion
by punkofnice ini was in a good mood yesterday (makes a bloody change, i hear you say).
i was meeting an old buddy for a meal.
he was never a jobo.
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On Friday I was in town and saw two young girls ( 25-30) on a cart. I said very politely " Do you realize you are in a cult". One politely asked why I said that, I very politely mentioned the royal commission, blah blah blah. She said " If I am wrong I will research it " I returned a little later, because having thought on our communication, I didn't want her to research and be without a contact. " can I give you my wife's number, so if you research and need talk with someone you have a contact" She thanked me put my wife's number on her phone....
That's the beauty of the cart, it catches many witnesses out of the witness mode, open to discussion and not on mind control alert as when they witness door to door.
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Absolute moral standards and fiction.
by The Rebel innot all beliefs are worthy of respect, but when we read a book of fiction in my mind it's easier to travel outside ourselves and our absolute moral standards.
fiction allows our imagination to be free.
i haven't read " fifty shades of grey" but i read " romeo and juliet" at school,and juliet was 13, romeo i believe was supposedly around 18 or 19.
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Vanderhoven7 " The only way absolute moral standards could exist is if there exists an absolute standard creator"
Good point, let's put our moral standards in the boxing ring, if I were Mahammed Ali i would knock the opponent out, without any mercy. ( And the public would and did love it)
I was always amazed growing up in England, that the generation that survived WW2 thought Punk music was evil and could bring down the establishment. I never got that.